Gimli gags, or at least makes a noise that might well be gagging writ loud. "When Morgoth, the Dark Lord, rose against the Powers of my world and the will of Iluvatar who made them, it's said he captured elves and put them to torments and wars," he says. "But that was to shape them and all their blood thereafter into Orcs, and no one knows the truth of that. Among the Elves of Arda, there have been three slayings of Elf by Elf- three wars in which Elves fought amongst themselves, that is."